Episode 82
82: Built to Last: Mentorship, Manufacturing, and the Matrix Mindset
Lisa Kenning, CEO of Matrix Automation, alongside her powerhouse team: Don Rentz, Greg Millinger, and special guest Scott Walberg.
Lisa shares her journey from helping her dad at age 10 to leading a company at the forefront of digital transformation in manufacturing. Together, the group dives into the importance of mentorship, the legacy of family-run businesses, and how lean principles and traceability tech have helped manufacturers achieve near-zero defect rates—even in highly complex, regulated environments.
What We Cover:
- Lisa’s early days at Matrix and the values instilled by her father
- Why mentorship—both formal and informal—matters, especially for women in manufacturing
- How Matrix Automation helps manufacturers reduce defects and improve traceability
- Real-world success stories from automotive and medical device manufacturing
- Why lean principles apply across all industries—from bourbon to wheelchairs
- The hidden costs of waiting too long to invest in continuous improvement
- Empowering frontline operators through smarter systems and data
- Learning across generations: Mahjong, magnetism, and mental health
Featured Guests:
- Lisa Kenning, CEO, Matrix Automation
- Don Rentz, General Manager, Matrix Automation
- Greg Millinger, Technologist & Product Architect
- Scott Walberg, President, Lean Innovation, LLC
💡 Key Quotes:
“We didn’t buy an off-the-shelf system. We partnered with Matrix and created something custom. That’s why it worked.” – Scott Walberg
“My dad started this company to serve the customer better. That value still drives everything we do.” – Lisa Kenning
“Whether you're building 1,200 units or 100, the tools are the same. Lean is universal.” – Don Rentz
Transcript
Lori hyvee, Chris Harrington
and Aaron Courtney.
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:Three Broads bringing new
stories and strategies,
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:exploring manufacturing topics.
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:That challenge the status quo while
laying the foundations for future success.
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:Together with special guests,
they'll celebrate what's working
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:and unpack what is not so you
can learn, grow, and succeed.
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:You wanna learn more about your host?
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:Make sure to listen to episode one.
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:Kris Harrington: All right.
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:welcome everybody Ladies, have you
ever been mentored or been a mentor?
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:Lori Highby: yes.
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:Tell me
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:Kris Harrington: about it.
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:Lori Highby: Sure.
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:I've been mentored through podcasts,
books I've read, and just having
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:conversations with people that
I have a lot of respect with.
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:I've never been in a formal mentorship
but I've been a formal mentor,
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:through a number of organizations.
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:in Milwaukee, there's Temple Milwaukee,
and I'm assigned a mentee every year.
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:and I love doing that.
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:I love, love, love doing that.
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:And I did one through the Green
Bay Packers mentor program
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:So I did that.
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:they connected me with another business
owner, and I was mentoring her.
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:a few years ago.
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:we still stay in touch and meet up.
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:that's been a great experience.
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:Oh, I love that.
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:That's so
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:Erin Courtney: cool.
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:I can see you being
amazing at that, Laurie.
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:Thank you.
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:I really would like to.
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:an organization I'm working with right
now, we have assigned mentors internally.
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:it's been fun because we're shadowing
one another and it's nice to share the
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:nitty gritty with, somebody you work with.
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:Usually it's just outcomes, outcomes,
outcomes, but here's my process.
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:learning from her as well.
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:I'm glad you asked the question, but
why'd you ask the question, Chris?
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:Kris Harrington: Well, you know, our
friend Nicole Donnelly, that does mm-hmm.
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:The Hello Moxie podcast.
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:Yeah.
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:She is starting a formal
mentor program for women.
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:she was telling me about it and it
got me thinking about mentoring,
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:women having female mentors.
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:when I was, increasing in my
career, I never had a female mentor.
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:not because I didn't want one, but
there weren't a lot of women in the
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:roles I was seeking When I asked, for
mentorship, it was all males in the role.
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:I looked up to a lot of women and I
certainly learned from a lot of women,
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:but I've had the chance to mentor
women, there's so much value for those
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:of us that are in the tech space, for
those of us that are in manufacturing.
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:Just because they're, you know, we're
trying to increase the number of women
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:that we see in both manufacturing and
tech, and I think women learning, and
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:especially young women learning from
other women, why we find these industries
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:so exciting can be really valuable.
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:Thank you Alright, question.
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:Let's, introduce our guest today.
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:We have Lisa Kenning here with us, as
the CEO of Matrix Automation, founded by
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:her father, Lisa Kenning grew up in the
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:Automation industry,
Starting with cleaning tasks.
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:She began visiting manufacturing
customers to understand their needs.
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:Lisa's passion for automation drives
her to help manufacturers optimize
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:operations, comply with regulations,
and implement safety critical strategies
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:Traceability and genealogy.
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:Lisa's team at Matrix is committed to
digital transformation and Industry 4.0,
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:delivering solutions such as
paperless manufacturing, electronic
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:work instructions, and digital
lean for smarter factories.
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:So Lisa, welcome to the show.
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:Lisa Kenning: Thank you for the warm
welcome and I love the discussion that you
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:girls kick this off with, with mentoring.
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:I, I have, two people here from Matrix and
I feel like they are not woman mentors,
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:but they are two tremendous mentors to me.
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:And, it, yeah, I'm very
lucky to have them.
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:Kris Harrington: Well, excellent.
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:We're glad you have them.
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:it would be great if you gave
them an opportunity to introduce
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:themselves to our audience
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:my name is Don Rentz and I've
been with Matrix Automation for 27
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:years and 10 months I have a 28th
anniversary coming up in June.
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:Excuse me.
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:Lisa Kenning: Yay.
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:I'm a general manager at Matrix and,
I've, you know, done a lot of different
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:job functions, you know, as I've,
I've been working here, obviously I've
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:been here for a long time, and, I,
I help in a bunch of different ways.
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:up to and including sometimes becoming
the project manager It depends on
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:what kind of resources are needed.
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:Kris Harrington: Well,
nice to meet you, Don.
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:Thank you,
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:Kris Harrington: Greg.
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:Greg Milinger: Hey.
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:my name's Greg Millinger and,
kinda unique story because I
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:started at Matrix 1993 and I.
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:Built the production wear platform
that they still use today.
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:I was the chief architect
at the time, I left Matrix.
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:Then after about eight years I
went to Deloitte, I went to general
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:Electric where I became the product
manager for their next generation MES.
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:I stayed there for an awful long time and.
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:Tata Consulting then Maverick for years.
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:We got a acquired by Rockwell,
where I was the Vice President of
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:Enterprise Integration there, and then
I retired and then I came back again.
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:So I'm back to.
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:You know, a very long span of, of missing,
and I'm still a technologist, but I
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:also have run very large businesses.
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:Kris Harrington: Oh, excellent.
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:Nice to meet you, Greg.
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:Greg Milinger: Nice to meet you all.
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:Kris Harrington: All Scott.
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:Scott.
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:Hello.
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:so my name's Scott Walberg and I
am currently the president of Lean
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:Innovation, LLC, consulting company for
any manufacturing environment because
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:what we're about to talk about today
really applies to all industries.
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:I was a customer, partner with
Matrix automation for 21 years.
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:Enjoyed great success
because of that partnership.
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:But, a little more about me.
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:Even though I've retired with 38 years
in the automotive industry, moved into
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:the bourbon industry built bridges,
drilled oil in Texas, built jails and
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:prisons and spent spare time selling
cars for large dealerships in Michigan.
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:Finding that lean manufacturing,
good manufacturing practices
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:apply to any and all industries.
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:No one is, unique when it
comes to the application of the
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:tools we'll talk about today.
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:Thanks for having me.
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:Kris Harrington: Nice to meet you.
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:Thank you for that introduction I'm
curious, Lisa, Can you tell us a
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:little bit about Matrix automation,
what you do for your customers?
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:there was a little bit in your
bio, but kind of expand on, on
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:what you guys are all doing.
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:Lisa Kenning: Yes, thank you.
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:I'm excited to talk about this.
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:no conversation about Matrix.
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:Can start without talking about my dad.
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:was born in 1947.
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:He, was the oldest of 11 and they
had a farm in the center of our town.
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:He, It.
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:He was a great son, great big brother.
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:He, you know, took care of everybody.
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:He, went into the army and then
eventually Cleveland State to get
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:his electrical engineering degree.
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:And about 10 years later,
maybe a little less.
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:in 1983, he started Matrix Automation.
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:And the reason he started Matrix
Automation was because he believed that
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:there were better ways to serve customers.
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:And that's the really important
part of this, is that.
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:That was the most important thing to him
then, and it's continued to be, that's
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:the driving force behind everything we do.
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:And it's behind every
discussion, every decision.
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:It always is about the customers, what is
best for them, what are their needs, and
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:every customer has such unique needs and.
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:the stakes are high, so you have
to, understand and meet those needs.
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:in the beginning we, were doing PLCs and,
started in, actually our, our biggest
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:customer in the beginning was Norton
and we were doing nors and paint lines.
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:And we expanded into automotive
and steel mills, milling industry.
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:And, and, and it was really fun for me
to watch the evolution of the company.
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:I was 10 years old when he started the
business, and my dad loved what he did,
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:so he was always talking about it with me.
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:He was always on the
phone with customers with.
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:Employees.
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:I was always around for
those conversations.
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:We were at the office where I got my
start, where I was cleaning the office,
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:cleaning the bathrooms, and leaving notes
for employees so that they would have like
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:cute little notes to see Monday morning.
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:as far as what we do now, I'd love
to toss that over to Don and Greg.
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:Sure.
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:I think what'd be good for
you to understand is what our
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:typical customer looks like.
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:that'll help you understand
why we do what we do.
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:an ideal customer for Matrix
deals with mixed model assembly.
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:they might be assembling, a Cadillac,
SUVA, you know that some of 'em
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:are electric and some of 'em are,
are internal combustion, right?
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:Mm-hmm.
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:And they're being built
on an assembly line.
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:And each one coming at the,
the operator is different and
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:their work content is different.
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:So that's, that's one,
one of the main things.
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:What bring, what comes with
that is high complexity.
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:if you're building mixed model and you
know, your car, and my car might both be
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:Cadillacs, but yours is all tricked out.
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:Mine might not be.
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:So the work content is, it varies in
each one of the stations as it goes.
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:So high complexity is a big part.
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:And another one that's.
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:You know, that's, is more, if it's
in a regulated industry, that that's
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:even more of a sweet spot for us.
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:that's why we deal a lot with
automotive with the Tread Act,
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:they're big on traceability.
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:They wanna know if an airbag.
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:Explodes.
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:You know what, you know
what, why did it explode?
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:And they'll come back to our customers
and they'll ask for, well, was the
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:torque bag torqued successfully?
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:What were the torques?
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:it's always the lawyers coming
back to get that information.
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:so our customers have to have
that information available.
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:one of the key things that our system
provides is that, you know, we capture
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:data live in every one of those assembly
steps and, you know, it's archived.
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:And Scott will tell you we
launched with them in:
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:the very first production war system he
would tell you that data is very useful.
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:In fact, the prior plant manager.
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:was in a meeting and someone
asked him, what's the biggest
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:benefit from production wear?
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:He said, it keeps me
off the hot seat at gm
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:Lisa Kenning: because
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:I, I'd go in there with the data and
they would, you know, they, they got
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:to the point where they stopped calling
'em into the meetings when there was
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:a, a quality spill our systems provide
operators with everything they need.
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:one key thing is, I say operators
because there's a lot, you know,
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:there people might think we do,
robotics and stuff like that.
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:We really don't.
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:I mean, ours, our, our stations are
manual or semi-manual if there are
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:robots, production typically talks
to them to tell them what product
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:they have so they can do their thing.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:So, at the end of the day
customers get is, I, I think
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:they get empowered operators.
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:Scott, you can speak more to what it
did for you as one of our customers.
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:Sure Don, I'd love to talk about that.
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:you triggered a lot of thoughts, My
experience with Matrix started back in,
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:I guess, that 2000, 2001 range where
our customer had approached us to do
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:something we've never done before.
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:They've never farmed it out before.
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:It was, assembly of very
complex, powertrains and
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:suspension modules, and, they.
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:Farm that out because internally they
to:
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:per million, which measures defects.
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:they wanted a zero defect solution.
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:Rumor had it, we could provide that
the reality is there's a lot of
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:failure modes in putting together
a a V eight, a V six a, a four
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:cylinder superchargers, twin turbos.
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:The complexity is off the map every
one on the assembly line is different.
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:we're building custom.
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:modules for a customer in a
luxury vehicle division, it's
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:understandable why they wanted zero
defects, but providing that without.
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:An MES system.
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:and that's what we partnered with
Matrix to put together was a system
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:that would not allow a defect to pass
from one workstation on the assembly
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:line, a hundred stations down, and
provide a zero defect solution that
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:module would go to the customer.
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:And so the, the, the commercial is the
results after 21 years of doing such a
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:thing resulted in no warranty issues.
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:From our line, from our
workmanship, no recalls.
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:All those things you see on
television and hear daily about
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:defects slipping through to the end
customer, the person buying the car.
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:we never had any of those for 21 years.
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:previously 12 to 1400 defects
was the norm, partnering with
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:Matrix we had a metric of five
parts per million for 21 years.
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:And within that 21 years, we actually
had a span of really close to five.
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:We just came short of five years with
zero defects coming off the line, which
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:Kris Harrington: That's impressive.
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:And I, I know in the automotive
world, obviously as you mentioned,
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:you are handling a lot of complexity.
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:Typically there are high volumes as well.
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:it.
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:Are these programs that you're, you're
instilling in, in helping operators
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:with Empower, the empowering them.
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:Are they also useful for
organizations that may not have the
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:volumes of the automotive world?
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:Can you speak to that a little
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:yeah, I can address that when you get
outside of automotive, one of the other,
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:regulatory agencies involved in our
systems is the FDA, we deal with, we
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:have no, I don't know, 10, 12, plants
that assemble electric wheelchairs.
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:Right.
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:They had the same kind of requirements.
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:they're trying to achieve
the same goals as Scott did.
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:And, and you know, I was, we were
just talking to one a couple weeks
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:ago, and he said they went from,
they went from a defect rate of like.
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up, when they started out it was like
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:20% of the product that went off their
line had some type of an issue with it
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:Now they, they're saving grace.
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:Is that typically those wheelchairs
don't go directly to the customer,
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:They go through because
they're, typically.
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:funded by Medicare, Medicaid,
they go to a dealer.
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:that panels their product
and catch a lot there.
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:they got it down to, 5:00
PM which is outstanding.
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:the volumes there might have
complexity, but are closer to a
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:hundred units per day at Scotch plant
the high era they were doing:
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:vehicles a day.
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:it's smaller, but uses the same
tools and that's the important thing.
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:it can cross multiple, whether you're
a small or a large manufacturer.
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:Erin Courtney: That's interesting.
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:the same approach applies regardless of
the size of your client it takes me back
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:to what you were saying, Lisa, about
your dad's priority was customer service.
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:And that can be.
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:Hard to achieve both, right?
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:excellence and the customer might
want something that doesn't align
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:How do you manage, you know, those
kinds of situations where your customer
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:first, but you might know better than
they do or differently than they do.
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:Lisa Kenning: Most customers look
to us to, have a, I mean, we have
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:a lot of expertise in our team, so
I really don't think that that has
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:been a big issue because there are
people, in a lot of cases that we
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:I, I really do feel like they
lean on us to give them advice.
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:So it sounds like you're establishing
trust first your customers are more
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:likely to listen to Don and Craig when
they say, we gotta do it this way.
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:I love how you started with the story
of your dad and his dedication to
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:the company bringing his kids in when
they're so young to be a part of that.
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culture would just become sort
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experience, did you get that
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willingness to listen.
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:we didn't buy an off the shelf system.
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:We partnered with them and
customized a system our team
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:needed, when we collaborated, we
came up with something special.
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:And that was the beauty of the
relationship, we worked together so
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:Lori Highby: I wanna go back to,
your opening question, Chris,
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:about, mentorship and, advocacy for
women in the manufacturing space.
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:Lisa, I'm curious from you, but I'd
love to hear from everyone today.
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:you know, what, what advice would you
have for girls, young women that are
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:interested or, in manufacturing space
and how to enter and, and find a mentor?
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:Lisa Kenning: really good question.
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:I, I think back to the early days, in the
company, and I kind of have a funny story
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:that, you know, the very first matrix
automation employee, is retired, but.
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:Kind of retired, still works with us.
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:he likes to joke about when I'd
call in and say, is my dad, there.
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:he'd say, well, there's
a lot of daddies here.
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:Which one are you looking for?
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:it really shapes things
for you as a girl when.
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:You just see men everywhere, I
couldn't see myself in that world.
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:I felt more like an outsider,
and girls are still seeing that.
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:my biggest piece of advice is just to ask
anyone you feel a connection to, even if
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:you don't know them, just lean into that
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:I have never met any woman in the industry
that is not excited to answer a question.
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:Or connect you to someone
who can help or mentor you.
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:as a woman, we're excited
to see someone interested.
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:In manufacturing and engineering,
connect, email, call.
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:Kris Harrington: I, I love that.
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:Lisa Kenning: I, yes.
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:And I have, one of my daughters is
thinking about, career in engineering.
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:She is a junior in high school and she.
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:Went to Ohio State, last month, the
girls were excited to talk to her.
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:So that's an example of what's
going on in the industry.
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:she came home so excited Oh my
gosh, mom, they're all so nice.
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:they were so excited to
show me their projects.
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:And, mm-hmm.
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:Tell me about the program and the, the
instructors were very excited to talk
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:to her, my advice don't be scared, just
ask questions and, and you're going
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:to find that every, woman you talk to
is just super excited to give back.
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:Kris Harrington: Yeah, I love that.
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:I would also say there are many
supportive men if there isn't
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:a woman to ask, ask the men.
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:most feel honored and delighted to work
with you So, I would encourage everybody.
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:thank you for that, Lisa.
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:this is great.
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:learning about your organization and
how you started the story of your
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:dad sounds like, an American business
story, There are many organizations
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:out there, and I really think there
are a lot of listeners that come from
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:organizations just like you described.
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:I think automation is a
really important topic.
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:I hope people have learned something
here, I know we just scratched the
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:surface, so I hope they reach out to
you to learn more because what you
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:thank you all for sharing.
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:At this time I'm just gonna
move into our, you know, I just
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:learned that and I'm curious.
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:Laurie, what did you just learn?
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:Lori Highby: Oh, it's AI related.
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:Get ready for it.
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:Kris Harrington: Tell us,
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:Lori Highby: There's two things.
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:it's really fascinating the
B-B-B-B-B-C Maestro, similar to
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:the masterclass programs here,
you know, that organization.
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:they launched, a writing course taught by.
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:The mystery writer who I
absolutely adore, Agatha Christie.
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:So they basically like built the
whole AI model to teach this course.
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:Oh, isn't that, it's creepy and
fascinating at the same time.
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:And I, on the same note
of like deceased people.
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:A little morbid.
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:in Arizona there was a sentencing and
an AI version created of the victim,
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:a video created of the victim talking
about his point of view with regards
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:to the sentencing what of his murder.
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:So there's this whole thing now
called the rise of the Dead Bots,
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:where people are basically taking.
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:People that have deceased and
leveraging AI to like bring them
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:back to life, Fascinating and creepy
But the AI machine is not stopping.
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:Kris Harrington: That is not
a use case I thought about
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:Lori Highby: Interesting.
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:Aaron, What have you just learned?
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:Erin Courtney: I am listening to
the most fascinating book right now.
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:It's called Strangers to
Ourselves by Rachel Aviv.
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:sort of psychopharmacology
and mental health and mental
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:illness is really interesting.
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:And one of the things that
I learned listening to the
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:book was that sort of the.
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:Genesis really of, antidepressants
was when they were administering
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:this one medication that they
thought might work for tuberculosis.
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:And so they gave this medication to
people in a TB ward and they were like.
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:They're dancing, they're happy.
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:Like these are usually very
depressing places and these
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:people are so, you know, joyful.
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:and so one of the physicians that
was exposed to this information began
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:to, experiment with it, with some of
his, clients that were suffering from
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:depression and, had some success.
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:It gets very complicated from there.
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:Very complicated story.
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:but I thought that was so interesting.
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:Kris Harrington: Yeah.
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:Erin Courtney: Yes.
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:Kris Harrington: Cool.
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:Very cool.
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:What about you all?
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:Well, I'm gonna ask Lisa, since
you are a longtime listener of
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:Lisa Kenning: Well, what I have been
learning and I'm super excited about is
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was interested in for several years and
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or find someone who could teach me.
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playing in three different groups.
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peers that are about my age and there
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many months teaching us how to play.
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that I play with my, husband's
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that Mahjong with the aunties.
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who are mostly in their eighties.
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them because they think so fast
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:Oh, how fun.
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:It's very complicated.
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single time we play, we're like, oh my
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:it's been a lot of fun
and good brain activity.
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:It keeps us sharp and, the, you know,
social connections, especially to
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:other women, I love the different.
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like, it just brings us all together.
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:Kris Harrington: Oh, that's fun.
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:Are there groups all over
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:Lisa Kenning: Yes.
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:it's gaining popularity.
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people learning how to play.
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:Erin Courtney: Fun.
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with three mentor groups going, right?
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about Mahjong, but so many other, parts
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:Lisa Kenning: Absolutely.
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:I feel like that goes along with
our discussion about mentoring.
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good example of that us, you know,
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generations wanting to learn and you
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daughters and their friends this summer
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:you guys are gonna, really spend time
with me and learn how to play this.
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:Kris Harrington: Oh, that'll be great.
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:Don, what have you just learned?
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:I Don't know how to play
Marjon, but my wife does with
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:Oh, cool.
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:well, you know, just learned,
is three months just enough?
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:Kris Harrington: Yes, just enough.
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:I think in the intro I mentioned
that, besides being general manager.
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:I'm really an account manager
more often than not, and thought
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:we ended up hiring, you know,
we hired a, a truce, what we
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:I've been spending a lot of time
with him in front of customers and
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:he has taught me so much in the, you
know, we've only started going out
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he has, he is just dialed in.
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know, gain confidence I wasn't used
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and the C level, and that's where
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too old to learn something that
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:Kris Harrington: Oh yeah.
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:That's right.
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:That's right.
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:So true, can you name one skill that
he has or that was different for you?
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:I'm curious When you're with a good
salesperson, it's almost amazing.
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:I'm curious what the skill is.
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I could pinpoint one thing.
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:he's just so confident and
always asks the right questions.
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:Kris Harrington: there you go.
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:I have a long way to go.
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:I mean, I'm still a understudy, but,
maybe we'll have a chat someday in the
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:Kris Harrington: Hey.
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:asking the right questions and
good questions I think is a
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the answer, so anyway.
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:Kris Harrington: Yeah.
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:Greg, how about you?
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learned that you'd like to share?
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:Greg Milinger: Well, it's kinda off
topic, but it, when I retired, I started
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magnetism and just magnetism in general.
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:You know, I never studied that.
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:I was reading, about quantum
mechanics and all that.
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that was really interesting where,
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:inside an atom, there is a
tremendous amount of empty space
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:and like our bodies, our 99.99999
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:empty space.
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:Is that fascinating?
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:Whoa.
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:Yes.
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:We're all just
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:Erin Courtney: AI of ourselves.
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:Now, this,
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:Greg Milinger: this is, this was even
more interesting if you took all of the
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fit into the volume of a sugar cube.
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:can you believe that?
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:Look it up.
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:It'll blow you away.
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:Erin Courtney: makes you scratch your head
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:Greg Milinger: doesn't it?
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:Erin Courtney: look
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:I do that.
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:it'll just blow you away when
you start reading about it.
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:Give us a book to read on that
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:Greg Milinger: the
internet is a great source.
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:because there's different viewpoints
take a look at it sometime.
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:most of the books I recommend would
put you to sleep in two minutes.
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:Kris Harrington: sometimes
I need those books, so
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:it would work.
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:Scott.
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:what is something you just learned?
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:It's huge, but obvious on
a scale of measurement.
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:As a consultant, there's this
scale from fat and happy profits
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:to anorexic and unhappy profits.
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:And when you talk about, lean
manufacturing, continuous improvement,
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:MES systems, nobody knows what they
are when they're fat and happy,
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:but when they start to get lean.
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:then that's when they really wanna do
all the right things, they don't realize
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:all the money they left on the table
when they were fat and happy, they
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:my big learning is don't wait.
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:Continuous improvement.
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:And the tools we talk about should be
in place everywhere at any time, not
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:Kris Harrington: Drop the mic on.
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:Continuous improvement Thank you, Scott.
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:That's great.
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:this has been wonderful.
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:Lisa, if people wanna connect
with you and the rest of the
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:team where's the best place
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:Lisa Kenning: LinkedIn is the best spot.
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:Kris Harrington: Alright.
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:Beautiful.
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:thank you all for joining us have
a fantastic day, and for everybody
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:listening, go out and make something.
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:Lisa Kenning: Thank you.
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:This wraps up today's broadcast.
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